Thursday, April 16, 2009

Seriously Rick Perry?

From CNN:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry isn't ruling out the possibility his state may one day secede from the nation.

Speaking to an energetic and angry tea party crowd in Austin Wednesday evening, the Lone Star State governor suggested secession may happen in the future should the federal government not change its fiscal polices.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry told the rally, according to the Associated Press. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

Washington isn’t thumbing their nose at the American people, Rick. They’re doing exactly what the majority of Americans asked them to do on November 4, 2008: reverse the disastrous policies of George W. Bush and get the country back on track.

Even in the dark days following the 2004 election, I never once heard a Democratic elected official suggest their state should secede from the union. It only took the GOPers three months following Obama’s inauguration to do the same. Seriously. Put some handcuffs on this guy.


Tudor said...

"They’re doing exactly what the majority of Americans asked them to do on November 4, 2008"So you're saying if a majority of Texans chose secession, they could?

And Nick, you've been relatively silent on Obama policies, focusing mostly on politics. But in at least one case you opined that you were not seeing the change you wanted. I don't see very much reversing of the disastrous policies of George W. Bush, do you? In fact, Obama looks like he could outdo Bush on deficit spending, domestic surveillance, and illegal detainment. Bush III?

And handcuffs? I'm going to assume that was hyperbole. You don't really think Rick Perry should be silenced, right?

Nick D said...

No, I'm saying exactly what I said, that a majority of Americans voted for change on November 4, 2008. We've already fought one civil war over the idea of secession, we don't need another.

I do in fact see lots of change, but there have been a couple cases where I've been disappointed as you have pointed out.

I'm saying Rick Perry's comments kinda sound like treason. Remember when the GOP tossed that term around?

Tudor said...

I'm not sure what the mechanics of secession would be. There are many weighty questions there. But if a duly elected state legislature vote for secession, it's my belief that they have the right to leave the union. And, yes, it's my view that the southern states had the right to secede. Don't take that to mean I'm in favor of slavery, or am racist, because I'm not.

Perry is not being treasonous, and neither were those the GOP targeted with the accusation. The "Mom! He did it first!" defense is unbecoming of both sides.

There's no doubt that the secessionist movement in Texas is largely a neocon phenomena, one that I don't support. But I think you and others on the left are underestimating another movement that is potentially in the works. I'll be the first to point out that the conservative right has co-opted in some part the "tea parties", and a big part of the draw was the anti-Obama factor. Ironic in that they've been more than willing to put the country in hock for war. But if a small-government mindset takes hold in the civil-libertarian leaning 18-30 year old demographic, the old guard in both parties could be in for some grief.